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  Disturbing hidden image in w15 04/15 page 9 (Not DF image)

  by campaign of hate in

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  could someone do me a favor and post the picture on page 9 on the above mentioned watchtower.. i'll point it out, very surprised no one else has picked up on this creepy image..

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  University professors?

  Its just something that jumped out at me when i turned to page 9 this morning.
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  Disturbing hidden image in w15 04/15 page 9 (Not DF image)

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  could someone do me a favor and post the picture on page 9 on the above mentioned watchtower.. i'll point it out, very surprised no one else has picked up on this creepy image..

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  Ha, your lucky i don't offend easily.

  Seriously, am i the only one who sees this shit?
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  Disturbing hidden image in w15 04/15 page 9 (Not DF image)

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  could someone do me a favor and post the picture on page 9 on the above mentioned watchtower.. i'll point it out, very surprised no one else has picked up on this creepy image..

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  Disturbing hidden image in w15 04/15 page 9 (Not DF image)

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  could someone do me a favor and post the picture on page 9 on the above mentioned watchtower.. i'll point it out, very surprised no one else has picked up on this creepy image..

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  thanks, ill try and stick a circle round it. Its a man laying on the ground with his legs spread out.

  I know, you think i'm shitting you....
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  Disturbing hidden image in w15 04/15 page 9 (Not DF image)

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  could someone do me a favor and post the picture on page 9 on the above mentioned watchtower.. i'll point it out, very surprised no one else has picked up on this creepy image..

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  campaign of hate

  Could someone do me a favor and post the picture on page 9 on the above mentioned watchtower.

  I'll point it out, very surprised no one else has picked up on this creepy image.
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  There is no right and wrong

  by campaign of hate in

  1. jw
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  so i am a little tangled up in this train of thought, as it can go quite deep.. as a jw, albeit fully awake, we are taught that there is right and a wrong.

  smoking is wrong.

  going on the ministry is right.

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  Hold me thrill me - So killing people just to satisfy your nations political ideals is of utmost importance, even over the life of others? I didn't realize the constitution was a living breathing entity.

  Has it ever crossed your mind that Abraham Lincoln wanted to preserve the political status quo because he was a selfish man and didn't want to yield to the idea of alternative governance?

  If politicians were more diplomatic in their approach and were willing to compromise more with the offending nations, being less selfish so to speak, there would be a lot less death.
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  There is no right and wrong

  by campaign of hate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i am a little tangled up in this train of thought, as it can go quite deep.. as a jw, albeit fully awake, we are taught that there is right and a wrong.

  smoking is wrong.

  going on the ministry is right.

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  Thanks for the replys, its nice to get a bit perspective on the subject.

  The point hold me thrill me made about war being political and not moral is absolutely bizarre.

  War goes deep into the human psyche, making people feel they should have ownership of something that isn't theirs, in a lot of cases oil or resources of the country they are invading. It's also used to gain the compliance of individuals of that certain nation, something that no one should have exclusive ownership of.

  9-11 was used merely as an example, don't want to sidetrack into that.

  Another example is the nuclear bombs that were dropped on japan. Some still believe that it was the right thing to do. Try telling that to the hundreds of thousands who were affected and are still being affected. But pearl harbor was defiantly wrong, but it didn't kill nearly as many people....It just depends on what side you are on whether it is right or wrong.

  I understand collateral damage and terrorism and the perceived differences, i just think those who are undertaking collateral damage are more attuned to the general populations thinking. If UK or US went around celebrating destroying parts of another country there would be protests. That doesn't mean for a moment that they are not happy and proud of what they are doing. Lets say the western army are more media savvy than terrorists. In my eyes, both are acts of terrorism (9-11 and the resulting retaliation, or any other example that may arise)

  Yes, it can be said i am resetting my thinking in terms of finding morality and my own moral compass away from religion. But, i still think by applying the "fruitages of the spirit" perhaps with the exception of faith, one can be a "good citizen". "Good" being, not hurting anyone else through word and deed, not doing anything that is detrimental to the environment, helping others that are in need. etc etc.

  I have been taught my entire life that i cannot achieve these things without having religion and God in my life. Not just any religion, but being part of the JWs. This is a complete lie, as everyone has the ability in their hearts to do kind deeds. If anything, i have learned i should do more for my fellow man ever since i woke up to the Fraud that is the WTBTS.
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  Do we have a "spiritual need"?

  by LexIsFree in

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  2. beliefs

  so this is only my second post but its about something that has been on my mind for awhile now.

  have any of you ever felt the need to pray or speak to a higher power?

  do any of you beleive that we were created or have evolved with a "spiritual need"?

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  Even as a fully immersed JW, i always found it hard to pray, i found the whole thing stupid. Why should we talk to God who knows everything we think, and knows everything we need before we even ask for it.

  Many positive things have happened in my life recently. People have asked me "you must have prayed hard to Jehovah", and i lied and said: "yes, i prayed hard about that". Then they go on to say, "See, prayer works".

  When you pray, positive things can happen. When you don't pray, positive things can happen. same can be said for the negative in our life.

  This does not mean i do not believe in a higher force (god, or whatever), this just means i don't think prayer has any merit at all and is a waste of time.

  I believe in a higher force that rewards us when we do kind deeds for others, and we have genuine love for others in our hearts. Most religions teach this basic idea, do good deeds to others and good deeds will be done to us. Karma.
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  There is no right and wrong

  by campaign of hate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i am a little tangled up in this train of thought, as it can go quite deep.. as a jw, albeit fully awake, we are taught that there is right and a wrong.

  smoking is wrong.

  going on the ministry is right.

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  So i am a little tangled up in this train of thought, as it can go quite deep.

  As a Jw, albeit fully awake, we are taught that there is right and a wrong. Smoking is wrong. Going on the ministry is right. The teachings are very black and white, and very infant like.

  It got me thinking about the world in general, and what we are taught what is right and wrong.

  9/11 was wrong in the eyes of many, and in my specific worldview, it was wrong. But in the eyes of others such as extremist groups it was right.

  So America and UK bombed Iraq and Afghanistan. That act was viewed as right in the eyes of many, but for these countries it was wrong.

  Both events led to untold suffering and death. So surely the argument of right and wrong, and good and bad is invalid?

  If you take the teaching of God destroying everyone in the world, apart from JWs at Armageddon; in the eyes of JWs this is right, and in the view of everyone else this is wrong. If a JW suddenly finds himself in the firing line of God at this event, suddenly Armageddon is now looking not so good.

  Again, right and wrong is so easily changeable, it's not that the event changes, it's whether or not we are directly affected for the most part.
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  2015 Regional Convention Anthony Morris Governing Body encourages coerced baptism of unwilling children ...again

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  this is from the last talk of the convention ......... clip 1:30 minutes longhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrej8tlyiso&feature=youtu.be.

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  Just when I think this religion can't get any madder, they prove me wrong.